Real Estate Show with Dan Drake, Paint and Supply Store

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Real Estate Show with Dan Drake Paint and Supplies

Alice Lema: [00:00:00] Well, good morning, Southern Oregon and welcome back to the Real Estate Show. So glad you could join us again today. My name is Alice Lema. I'm a broker here in beautiful southern Oregon with John L. Scott Real Estate, and today we get to do a deep dive into all things paint with Dan Drake of Drake's Paints.

Now, Drake's Paints has an amazing story. You're gonna wanna hear this cuz it sounds like no other paint store ever had this kind of start. So you wanna listen to that. But also, Dan is very technical. He knows a lot. He knows why things are the way they are. He knows the good technique. The proper technique, and he knows all the different kinds of paints and why you would wanna use them.

We're also gonna hit him with some questions about getting our houses ready for the holidays, for the winter, and yeah, and just pick his brain about all things paint. Dan Drake of Drake's Paints will be joining us on the show today.

Before we jump into [00:01:00] that interview with Dan Drake of Drake's Paints just wanna to briefly touch base on some of the Southern Oregon MLS reports that came out this week. Our local MLS is amazing. You can go on their website. SO mls, Southern Oregon, mls too many reports to read. I just wanted to touch base briefly on some general numbers where Jackson County, five years has gone up 49%, but year to date has only gone up 6.6%.

Also, just wanted to point out, Jackson County has a couple of, we've got five foreclosures and two short sales. We don't see those very often, but I just wanna point out, I still don't think there's gonna be a crush. There's a little bit of normal distressed sale statistics in a regular market, and it's not normal to have zero. So the fact that we have five [00:02:00] foreclosures year to date and two short sales, there's nothing wrong with that. Pointing to more of a normal, healthy market.

Now, let's touch base briefly in Josephine County. Josephine County, five year change, 54%. Josephine County's up 54% in the last five years, only 2.7 in the last one year, and we have two foreclosures in Josephine County and zero short sales.

Just wanted to point out the tides are changing again, underscore don't think there's gonna be any kind of a crash, just moderating normal market. Okay, so that's it for the statistics, for now. Let's take a quick break with a word from our sponsors and then start our conversation with Dan Drake of Drake's Paints will be right back after a quick word from our sponsors. Do not touch that dial.

Well, hey, Southern Oregon. Welcome back to The Real Estate Show. I'm Alice [00:03:00] Lema, I'm a broker here in beautiful southern Oregon with John Scott Real Estate and your host for the day. We're talking to Dan Drake of Drake's Painting here locally. Thank you so much for joining us today, Dan.

Dan Drake: Thanks for inviting me.

Alice Lema: So one of the fun things about fall is looking at the outside of our paint, the inside of our paint. And just to kind of bring our listeners up to speed, let's talk a little bit about the different kinds of paint, cuz there's a lot of technical variety and paint is a really interesting topic.

Dan Drake: Mm-hmm. , so I think right now with the changing weather and that kind of thing, one of the main topics that I hear is how can I paint this time of year, cooler weather, rain, and that kind of thing. And though, Rain is definitely always an issue. There's nothing that's gonna dry when it's getting wet.

There are products that will dry in cooler temperatures. Different precautions need to be [00:04:00] taken, but there's, there's products that you can use and get a house painted as long as it's 35 degrees or warmer.

Alice Lema: Wow. That's actually really cold.

Dan Drake: Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah.

Alice Lema: So do they make the paint? What do they do to the paint that it can tolerate 35 degrees.

Dan Drake: They put different dryers in there that even though it's cooler temperatures and that it's still able to kick off and, and evaporate the water. And so it's just different chemicals that they, they put in there to, to get it to do that.

Alice Lema: Well, and you know what? It makes sense. And here it is, 2022, all the technology and data that's available to, to make things more technically advanced, you can surely do it.

So that so is that paint that dries at 35 degrees, I just can't get over that. Sorry. Is that outside paint [00:05:00] or inside paint?

Dan Drake: It's outside paint,

Alice Lema: Yeah. Wow. That's even more remarkable. Yeah. Cool. Very cool. So what's the difference between paint and stain and sealer? Because a lot of us use those words interchangeably, but they're not the same, are they?

Dan Drake: No. No. So paint is more of a surface building product, so it's going on top of the surface. It requires a sealer or a previous paint job. That it goes onto. And it, it's gonna build coat after coat and, and get thicker and thicker as the time goes on. Stains, there's different opacities of stains, so you have translucent stains, you have semi-transparent stains semi-solid stains and solid color stains.

As you get more opacity, you do get more build. However, it can go on a bare wood surface with no primer. It, it kind of [00:06:00] penetrates into the wood and seals that wood from moisture getting into it and that kind of thing. But there's no primer that's on there. Stains are typically flat. We have stains go on flat, and then you can put sheen levels on top of it if you want like the log home that has that really nice gloss sheen on there and that kind of thing. And it gives it a little bit better protection.

Alice Lema: Okay. Okay. And does that need a primer?

Dan Drake: That does not, no.

Alice Lema: Wow. Yeah. The, You save yourself a lot of steps, huh? ?

Dan Drake: Yeah. Yeah. And it, it, the, the paint will last longer cuz anything that is solid gives your, gives more UV protection cuz the UV hits that and bounces off. So paint is a longer lasting thing. Stain is a maintenance thing that you have to keep up with. If you don't keep up with it, [00:07:00] things can go and, and get to be a big problem pretty quick. So you just have to, you have to watch it in every spring, see if it's time to freshen things up, or if you can go another year.

Alice Lema: So how often well, I guess you're gonna have different maintenance time timelines than depending on the product you're getting.

Dan Drake: Yeah. And, and it's gonna depend on the side of the house. So the shady side of the house, it may be 10, sometimes 15 years before you're gonna have to revisit that and do a fresh coat and that kind of thing on the sunny side of the house, depending on the product, depending on if there's shade trees in there, you may have to look at it in three, five years and, and freshen it up. So it, it, it's really varies depending on the exposure. On a deck, it's gonna be even worse because it's getting beat upon all day and [00:08:00] it really never gets a break until the sun goes down. So the decks are gonna be more often.

Alice Lema: Mm-hmm. So going back to, you were talking about like this, the sunny side of the house. Is it okay to paint just the sunny side of the house?

Dan Drake: Yeah. . Yeah. So basically not paint the other three sides of the house. Just the sunny side and not

Alice Lema: Yeah. Yeah. Can that be your maintenance every so often instead of doing the whole thing every couple years? Just cause it. It's worn on one side.

Dan Drake: Yeah. Cause the other side are gonna be , whereas the sunny side of the house is gonna need another coat much quicker. So a lot of times people will do that. They'll just paint the side that's getting the sun hit really bad. I believe the other sides for another paint job later and they'll maybe skip it once and then the next time paint everything.

Alice Lema: That was my next question. Like how many times? Cuz cuz you know, we all drive by houses and then we can [00:09:00] see like they only painted one side of the house. So how do you, how do you blend that a little bit so that it's not so noticeable?

Dan Drake: Well, you, you definitely always have to go corner to corner. So if it's if it's the front of your house, you want to paint the entire front. You don't wanna, you don't wanna have a little bit painted and a little bit not.

And then, I mean, you may make even two cycles before you have to paint the other sides of the house. But you just have to watch it. You'll notice the sheen level will go from, it's something that has a little sheen down to a flat. Ah, so you know, it's, it's time to paint cuz the sheens gone or you might note variations in colors and it's a little bit mottled looking and obviously it doesn't look right, so you need to give a, get a paint job on it.

Alice Lema: And that's sun damage. Is that what you would say?

Dan Drake: Yeah, almost always. I mean, it [00:10:00] can be, it can be a sprinkler going up and hitting back of the house too often, that kinda thing. So it can be other things, but more often than not, it is the sun damage, the UV that the sun put that causes the damage.

Alice Lema: Mm-hmm. . So what about colors? Because some people say that some colors darker or lighter will wear differently. What's your opinion on that.

Dan Drake: Definitely a darker color is not gonna last as long as a light color. That being said, a light bright yellow probably won't last as long as a black will cause yellow. Yeah. Yellow doesn't hold up as well as a black color does, or a bright red, brighter color or our man made colors pretty much. Therefore, they won't hold up as long as the oxides, which are more [00:11:00] mined from the earth. And they're, they're just more, you got more color longevity with those.

Alice Lema: Mm-hmm. So darker colors fade sooner. Mm-hmm. yellow doesn't last at all. , but yellow's not that popular, is it? Do you find that people buy a lot of yellow for their house.

Dan Drake: I mean, bright yellow, no, but like a nice creamy soft yellow, it's fairly popular. And with it being a little bit softer, not real bright, it. It, it does last a lot longer than the, the bright sun yellow that I have had people use, but it's not very often that, that's no .

Alice Lema: Do they paint over it when they painted sun yellow? Do they paint over it after ?

Dan Drake: Not usually cuz it's a lot of work and people live with it. We have had one, who was upset with his neighbor and he came in and asked for the ugliest, brightest [00:12:00] yellow. When we asked him, he goes, I just can't stand my neighbor and I want him to look at my house and know that I did this just for him.

Alice Lema: Oh goodness. I don't even wanna know the backstory on that one.

Dan Drake: Oh, and I, wow. Yeah, I don't know how it went, how it got to that point, but, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Alice Lema: Well, we're talking with Dan Drakes of Drake's Paint painting company and supplies. Why don't you tell us a little bit about how you started your painting company?

Dan Drake: So for, it's not a painting company, cuz we don't paint. We are a paint supplier. Paint supplier. Okay, So paint supply company. Paint store. Yeah. So it's it's kind of a a different story than probably every other paint store in the valley. Well, I know it's a different story than every other paint store in the valley. But it's a different story than most paint stores in, in the country.

And that is I, my father and [00:13:00] two uncles used to paint houses. They were painters. They, they started with the unions down in, down in California through the apprenticeship program, painting houses. And they had a job where they were required to use Benjamin Moore. The customer demanded that they use Benjamin Moore.

Well, Benjamin Moore wasn't available in the Valley, and so they ended up driving to Klamath Falls to pick up the Benjamin Moore from a Klamath Falls store. That That spurred them to use it and get to know the product a little bit and by doing so, they ended up loving it so much. They saw the difference in quality from anything else available in the valley that they ended up driving back and forth to Klamath Falls cuz they felt their customers deserved the best.

They would go to Klamath Falls and pick up their paint so that they could give their customers the very best. And from there a company named Baker's Paint. They [00:14:00] sold their, they sold 'em their paint store cuz they retired and they changed the name to Drake's Paint. And at the time it was they were selling a product called Martin Sonar.

And they ended up keeping that for probably 10 years. But they called Benjamin Moore right away and said, hey, we'd like to put your paint in our paint store and Benjamin Moore, because there was nobody in the Valley was happy to do so.

Alice Lema: Wow. What started a great story. That is so great. We're talking to Dan Drake of Drake's Painting Supply Store here locally. We're gonna have to take a quick break just to say thank you to our sponsors. We are gratefully brought to you by Guy Giles Mutual of Omaha Mortgage, John L. Scott, both Ashland and Medford offices, and also our local Rogue Valley Association of Realtors. We're gonna be back talking with Dan Drake of Drake's Paint Supply Store here locally in just a quick minute, so [00:15:00] please do not touch that dial. We're gonna be right back.

Well, welcome back to the Real Estate Show everybody we're talking to, Dan Drake of Drake's Paint Supply Store here in the valley. Thanks for being on the show with us today, Dan.

Dan Drake: Thank you. Glad to be here.

Alice Lema: So, yeah, right before the break you were telling us how you your family started this store gosh, quite a while ago. It sounds like your dad and your uncles. Yeah. When was that? When were. When were they just starting?

Dan Drake: They, they started the paint store in 1984. They started in the early sixties painting in, oh Southern California, and they painted their, until they wanted to get out of the hustle and bustle of Ca California and they came up to back when it was really not that busy

No. Yeah. It was not nearly what it wasn't. And yeah, they tell me all kinds of amazing stories about growing up in Redondo Beach, and it [00:16:00] sounds like an amazing place to grow up, that's for sure.

Alice Lema: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those, those days are gone for sure. Yeah. . So how did you get looped into the family Paint Store business?

Dan Drake: So now I, 1991 they needed somebody to, to help out at the paint store, and I had just graduated and my uncle came to me and asked me if I wanted to work at the paint store and I was in a job I wasn't real thrilled with and I thought, Yeah, I'd love to do something different. So I came on board and really enjoyed it.

And I think more than anything I really liked the entrepreneurial aspect of helping them run a store. Cuz at that time I didn't know a whole lot, but I, I was involved in a lot of what was going on in the paint store because there was just me and one other person at that time working in the paint.

Alice Lema: How big is your store now?

Dan Drake: Now we've, we've got eight employees. We went from like, I [00:17:00] think our store was around 1800 square feet when we started, and we're in a store that's over 8,000 square feet now.

Alice Lema: Goodness say and burst in at the seams . That's great. And you could use more space than you have now.

Dan Drake: More employees would be great.

Alice Lema: Oh, that's wonderful. So you hear that folks, Drake's paints. If you've got a, a hankering for being in the paint business, you can call Dan . So going back to the actual the actual material of paint, one of the questions I get as a realtor all the time is, well, somebody can just come along and, and paint that themselves.

They don't have to have a professional. And I've noticed over the years that it really doesn't look good or last very well if you don't have a professional. What are what are your thoughts on that?

Dan Drake: I guess it depends on what you're painting and what kind of time in that you have. One thing I, I recommend people think about when they're [00:18:00] thinking about doing their own paint job is kind of go figure in your mind what it's gonna take, how much time it's gonna take, and effort that is gonna take and think about that and then multiply it by two or three, and that's probably about where you'll be. Know that you can spend a lot of time doing that and if your time is more more valuable than the money it would cost, then you might wanna hire a painter.

If you're very picky about straight lines, no brush marks, perfection. Then that's another thing you'll wanna think about cuz it does take some skill. Painters aren't just painters cuz they, they just want decide they wanted to be a painter all of a sudden. They've got many years perfecting their skill and they, there is a definite difference between a quality painter and [00:19:00] somebody who has not done it.

Alice Lema: Yep. That's what I started noticing over the years too, that there really is a huge difference, not only in how it looks initially, but how long it looks good , right? Yeah. Yeah.

Dan Drake: And you know, I've got 30 year relationships with painters. I know the painters that put the effort into their jobs. They have, they have great ethics, and they also have.

They're meticulous about making sure their customers have a nice job and it's clean and that kinda thing. Mm-hmm. . So it's, it's just it's always good to make sure you call and, and talk to somebody who knows the people that are gonna be on the job and make sure that you've got somebody that's gonna do the job you want 'em to do.

Alice Lema: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . So when people are using some of the, the newer products, I, I noticed that there's chalkboard paint that that's available now. You can put that on your wall so your kids can actually [00:20:00] draw on it. There's also some well, let's start with that. Let's just start with interior, kind of specialty paints, chalkboard any special kinds of trims, anything new coming down the pike. Super cool to talk about.

Dan Drake: So there's definitely chalkboard paint. It's not really new, but it is, it is a fun little accent you can do in a kid's room that they can really have a good time putting, putting writing with chalk on the walls. And sometimes people think, well, that teaches kids to write on walls.

Well, not really. If you, if you're, if you work with your kids and that, and just make sure they know that that wall is the only one you can write on, it's actually works out pretty good for 'em. And, and you can pretty much get any color of chalkboard you you want for your kids.

Doesn't have to be black or the green. You can go any color. Just know you have to pick a chalk color that will show up on the whatever color you choose.

Alice Lema: Okay, so what about the [00:21:00] specialty paint that's used when you're refurbishing cabinets? Instead of buying new cabinets, people will have a professional painter come and paint. What, what is that product like?

Dan Drake: So a cabinet paint is the, it's, it's different from a wall paint in that it's made to flow out. And, and brush marks to, to flow out of it and look more smooth and try to get more of a sprayed look on cabinets. That's one difference. The other thing is, is on cabinets, you want it to be something that dries to much harder surface so that you can scrub it, it's gonna withstand a lot more wear and that kind of thing on walls. You're, you're putting it on larger surfaces. You want coverage, hide and obviously durability as well. But you, you want more build typically than you [00:22:00] would on cabinets and flow isn't nearly as important cuz you're just rolling it on there. 90% of the time you have a texture there. So any of the roller marks kind of get hidden by the texture and that. So you don't need that flow. You need hide and coverage and, and that a lot more so.

Alice Lema: So I didn't realize that cabinet paint was that much different, but it really is.

Dan Drake: Oh yeah. Yeah. And, and typically higher sheens as well and, and that kind of thing as well.

Alice Lema: So, mm-hmm. , how long will painted cabinets last? Well, I guess it depends on your use, but an a, let's say an average person, , who's not slamming their stuff around all day long, how long do you think it would be before they'd have to repaint those cabinet?

Dan Drake: So if, if you, you're, if you're taking decent care of the cabinets, your sink's not coming, flowing over the counter onto the doors. You're not dripping water down the faces of the cabinets and that kind of thing. I've had customers that have cabinets for 20 [00:23:00] years and wow.

Alice Lema: Painted cabinets. Yeah. Wow.

Dan Drake: And they're more ready to change the color than the cabinets are worn out,

If you think about it, the, the, if you do a good product, the right product, and you do the, do a good job on it, good and that kind of thing, you can, you can save money by spending a little extra on the product and having it done correctly than if you use something inexpensive that doesn't do as good a job as and lasts as long.

That if, if you use something that's not a quality product, you're, you're probably looking at five, 10 years and you're gonna need to redo those cabinets.

Alice Lema: That is a much longer time than I was expecting. Five, five to 10 years. That's amazing. But it has to do with using the right materials, the right tools, and the right people for the job.

So one of the other kinds of paint that I've come across over the years is fireplace paint, [00:24:00] and that is also a special kind of paint, isn't it?

Yeah, it it if are you talking like painting your, your fire wood, fire stove or, or whatnot?

Yeah. Yeah. Just anything that's gonna get hot because of wood or pellets or something.

Dan Drake: Yep. Yeah. You need something that's gonna be a high heat paint, and typically those are, typically spray cans versus brush and roll. You can get the brush and roll type, but the spray cans are typically what are used on, on like a fire, or whatnot.

Alice Lema: Yeah. And how is it different? What is it about the paint that makes it fire or heat resistant? Or heat tolerant?

Dan Drake: Heat tolerant or Heat tolerant. Okay. And there's, it has a lot to do with chemicals and, and, and raw materials that don't burn. And that kind of thing, it's always a lot more expensive because of a higher [00:25:00] grade of product. A lot of paint has different minerals in the paint and some minerals are very resilient to heat. And others when it gets to be 150 or more, they're gonna start discoloring and then start failing and, and, and that kind of thing. So it, the minerals that they put in there are gonna be very important and as well. The resins to hold all the minerals together and that kind of thing.

Alice Lema: Mm-hmm. . So if if, if someone purchases a home and their fireplace is painted how do they know that it was the wrong kind of paint that was used? Like, what are the little signs?

Dan Drake: So if it's just like the bricks on the outside of the fireplace, typically that's not gonna get hot enough to need a high heat product. Cause the outside of the bricks are gonna get maybe 120 degrees or something like that. [00:26:00] A good quality, paint for your, that you can put on there would probably go up to 150, 200 degrees without any issue, and that's, that's gonna be hotter than you're gonna want to put, You wouldn't wanna put your hand on something like that.

So and usually your bricks are not gonna get that hot, so you can just use a good quality wall paint in different sheen levels that you might wanna do, and it'll be just fine.

Alice Lema: Oh, so, and that's on masonry or brick or, mm-hmm. rock, right? Yeah. Okay. So not so big of a concern then. That's good.

Dan Drake: I ,I painted my fireplace 12 years ago. And we've had both fires in the open fireplace and a wood stove that got really hot and it, it's held up just fine. No problems whatsoever.

Alice Lema: Good. Good. Well, good information. We're talking to Dan Drakes of Drake's [00:27:00] Paint Store here locally in Southern Oregon. We're gonna have to take another quick break to say thanks to our sponsors and then we'll be back. And also, just a reminder that this broadcast will repeat again tomorrow, on Sunday at six o'clock. So you can listen to Dan Drake all over again. But for now, just don't touch that dial cuz we'll be right back.

Well, welcome back to the Real Estate Show, folks. I'm Alice Lema your host of the show. Today we're talking to Dan Drake of Drake's Paint Store here locally. Dan, thanks again for being on the show. Yeah, so In the last little seconds that we were talking about, specialty paints for fireplaces, wood stoves, chalkboards, things like that, wanted to kind of talk a little bit about the more environmentally friendly. Cuz that's a real big push for paints to kind of go that direction. What kind of technology is, is helping with that.

Dan Drake: [00:28:00] So paint manufacturers have, they've taken a lot of the solvents out of paint. They've found ways to produce paint without having those in there. Initially when they started doing that painters would. They, they really didn't want to use those products cuz they didn't work well.

But as they, as they perfected 'em more and more nowadays, most all of our products that are sold out of our store today are all either low VOC or zero voc, which is Volatile Organic Compounds. And that's the portion of paint that evaporates and goes into the air. And so, Really you don't have to sacrifice quality or ease of application any longer. And that to get a, an environmentally friendly product on your house or walls,

Alice Lema: That's wonderful. Yeah. And that took a lot [00:29:00] of trial and error over the decades, didn't it?

Dan Drake: Oh, it definitely did. I would say it's been probably about 24, 25 years since I saw the first low VOC paint, and from that point until now the, the quality of the product and that is absolutely astonishing.

Alice Lema: That's amazing. And I guess that's really just like one lifetime, half a lifetime. If you look at the scheme of the world that actually, that technology kind of advanced pretty quickly. I know 20 years is a lot to us , but yeah in the scheme of things. So let's talk a little bit about Things that people could do differently. Things that you see a lot that would be so easy to fix if somebody just took 10 seconds, got something more prepared.

Dan Drake: Yeah, you know, I see people pretty much on a very regular basis, trying to shorten the process of [00:30:00] getting a good paint job, cutting out steps. Don't sand, don't prime. Do one coat instead of two coats, the the problem with doing that is usually when you, when you don't do a step somewhere along the line, and it may be three, four years from the time you paint, but somewhere along the line it almost always has repercussions. If you don't sand, that's, and not always does it need to be sanded. There are definite times that it does need to be sanded.

And if you don't sand when it does need to be sanded, you try to use a, a shortcut product that, that removes the sanding face. You, you, you end up having immediate issues with adhesion, the look of the job usually isn't as good. And so cutting out steps that are, are fairly necessary to save time, usually in the long run will end up costing you time. [00:31:00] So that's, I think probably one of the most common thing.

Alice Lema: I saw someone who had and they did their own house. There's nothing wrong with doing your own house, but they they brushed over bugs. We're walking around the outside of the house and at first you think it's just some little texture or something, and then you're like, Oh no, that's like, that's a, that was a bug .

Dan Drake: Yeah. That is one thing I don't recommend doing.

Alice Lema: Well, it's not gonna stay. Yeah. It's gonna chip right off . Yeah.

Don't adhere to the house real well.

Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. So a proper paint preparation is gonna involve what, what main steps.

Dan Drake: So if you're, if you're talking about painting the outside of your house, typically a pressure wash of the house is gonna be necessary. Necessary. Typically I would recommend [00:32:00] some type of chemical while you're pressure washing your house because it will kill mold, mildew, even though there may not be. Yeah. Yeah. And you may not see the mold or mildew, but if it's there, it can create problems down the road if painted over. So it's always a good idea to use a chemical wash, pressure washer. When you're pressure washing, the pressure washer is there to clean stuff off your house.

It's not there to remove paint or anything like that. You can destroy your siding with a pressure washer if you're not careful. So you always want to be very careful while pressure washing your house.

So not full blast.

Not for . Yeah. back off, away from the service and yeah, definitely. So that scraping if there's any loose product using the correct primers, fillers and that kind of thing to make sure that that what you're putting on there is the right thing. Don't paint [00:33:00] over loose paint is, is very, very important. But the one thing, if you've not done it, I, you just come in tell us what you wanna do and we can help you through the process.

Take pictures and we can, we can say, Yeah, you, this is gonna be real easy. You're, there's a lot of work that needs to be done before you, before you tackle this. Is it really important?

Alice Lema: Well, and you know, we only have a few minutes left. We're gonna have to have you back cuz I got a lot more questions. But I know that some of our real estate clients wanted me to ask about lead based paint. And cuz we have so many older homes in southern Oregon, the last couple minutes we've got, let's, let's talk about that.

Dan Drake: So with lead based paint, there's a lot of processes that should be taken when, when you're scraping, sanding and that kind of thing on a lead based house. You don't wanna just scrape the [00:34:00] house, let all the chips from the house fall into the ground, and eventually that lead goes to the drainage and that kind of thing, and mixes in with the water and it can be a serious problem.

And that's, they've pretty much cracked down on it. Best thing on a lead based house is to hire a lead certified contractor that knows every aspect of what it's gonna take to get that job done and get it done correctly. That doesn't hurt the environment. Lead is common in older homes. That's early seventies and, and a little bit earlier than that.

So we have lead check kits that you can take and try, or you can put it on the surface and it'll turn pink if it's, if it's got lead in it. And so you can test it and make sure that there is or isn't lead. But if your house was, is an older house, I always recommend checking [00:35:00] that and making sure, cuz you certainly don't wanna have it into the groundwater and that kind of thing. And have your kids come down with some lead poisoning or something like that.

Alice Lema: Yeah. Or your pets or the neighbors. .

Dan Drake: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, pets your neighbors. Yeah. They wouldn't be too happy about it.

Alice Lema: The one without the yellow, the bright yellow house. Yeah. , you had to hear the, the beginning of the show folks. You have to listen to Dan again tomorrow. Well, Dan, thank you so much for your time. Drake's Paint Store. How do people call you? We've got 10 seconds. Give us your phone.

Dan Drake: All right. Phone number is (541) 773-3335. And we're at 29 29 North Pacific Highway.

Alice Lema: Awesome. Well, thank you so much Dan Drake. We'll see you guys next week. Have a beautiful weekend, folks. Bye now.