The Real Estate Show with Scott Moore, Home Inspections & Construction

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Alice Lema: [00:00:00] Well, hey there, Southern Oregon. Welcome back to the Real Estate Show. So glad you could join us today. I'm Alice Lema. I'm a broker at John L. Scott Real Estate here in beautiful southern Oregon and your host of the show and so happy to be welcoming back, Scott Moore of Scott Moore Construction to the show today.

Scott is part of the Home Energy Score program. It started up in Portland and is slowly working its way down to the homeowners in southern Oregon. So Scott will be giving us an update on how things are going in southern Oregon with that program is very, very interesting, home energy score inspection update. We'll also be talking about. Construction in general whole house inspections. And he also has an update for the Veterans Association Compliance Program. So Scott Moore, Scott Moore Construction will be joining us here shortly.

In the meantime, let's take a quick look at our local statistics. Always a fun [00:01:00] time of the week to check those. This week. Josephine County Prices year over year, and this is residential single family statistics only. Prices in Josephine County are down 6% to an average of $440,475. The number of solds year over year in Josephine County are down 35%. The number of listings in Josephine County year over year are down 18%.

Klamath Falls prices year over year for single family residential are up 5%. Congratulations klamath Falls. The average price of a single family residential home in Klamath Falls will now cost you $326, 651. The number of solds year over year in Klamath Falls are down 37%. The number of listings year over year in Klamath Falls are down [00:02:00] 37%.

Jackson County prices year over year are down 3% to an average of $489,995. The number of solds in Jackson County year over year are down 40%. The number of listings in Jackson County year over year are down 22%. So we can see our market trying to stabilize. We're waiting every week to check that Jackson County and Josephine County are gonna start bouncing back up on their prices like Klamath Falls.

So that's why we run these numbers every week, folks. So in the meantime, we're gonna take a quick break have a quick word from our sponsors and then we'll be bringing Scott Moore on. We're thankfully brought to you by John L. Scott Ashland and Medford, Local, Rogue Valley Association of Realtors and Guy Giles of Mutual Mortgage. Thanks everybody and stay tuned for Scott Moore.[00:03:00]

Well, welcome back to the Real Estate Show folks. So glad you could join us. Today we're chatting with Scott Moore, Scott Moore Inspections and construction. Welcome back Scott. Thanks for giving us another update.

Scott Moore: Well, good morning Alice. Thank you for having me back on. I appreciate it.

Alice Lema: Well, you have a lot of very interesting things going on in your inspection business. Last time we chatted a few months ago, we were talking a lot about the energy scoring. How about we start there and you give us an update on what's going on in that world?

Scott Moore: Okay. Well so things are progressing in that area right now. It's still in infancy. People are still trying to understand what the advantage is or what the purpose of it is. I have been working well, first of all, I, I tried to upgrade my services and I since the last time we've talked, I've got my [00:04:00] license in thermography.

Alice Lema: And, oh. What's that?

Scott Moore: What thermography is, is it's the use of infrared camera to measure air leakage water leakage, that kind of thing. Yeah. And so that is used in conjunction typically with blower door test to actually measure air leakage and locate where air leakage is. Which has everything to do with efficiency of your equipment and windows and what not. So yeah, I, I decided to add that to the service.

And so when I do an energy score now you'll have the documents of the score, the list of the 2023 incentives, and then I create another document showing examples. I print out the pictures and use my report software edited to that narrative to [00:05:00] show where your air leakage is and whatnot.

Alice Lema: So are you like physically able to show the parts of the house that are leaking? Is that what that does?

Scott Moore: Yes. And so, and I offer that service in my home inspection as well for pretty nominal fee.

Alice Lema: That is super cool add-on. So, and that's infrared, you said?

Scott Moore: Yeah, it's infrared.

Alice Lema: So I'm assuming you have special equipment for that.

Scott Moore: Yeah, I've got an infrared camera and this camera is is pretty specific to home inspection. Excuse me. So it measures relative humidity, dewpoint. It's got two different types of moisture meters in it. It's it's, it's, it's pretty inclusive package. So one of the things, if you're if I was to find a moisture area you always have to verify with at least one or two different devices to, you know, to prove that there is actually moisture there. Because you, [00:06:00] yeah, you infrared, if you look at the infrared pictures, it's easy to misinterpret them. So I have the, a moisture meter that's just a pressed type sensor like most inspectors have. And then I have another one on the same device. It's a, it's a pinpoint type of device and it's calibrated to, depending on how I set it up, I can test about 60 or 70 different type of materials.

Alice Lema: Wow. Yeah. So that would be handy. Not only like in the wet areas like bathrooms and kitchens, but I would think sometimes if people were worried that their roof was leaking or about to leak before it does damage, you could detect that. Mm-hmm.

Scott Moore: Yeah. You can find moisture areas that you can't see, but with the naked eye. You know, or, or even with a probe.

Alice Lema: Wow. That is so handy.

Scott Moore: I got that because it goes hand in hand with the full energy audits and so I, you know, I had to start somewhere and keep progressing on this part of it.

Alice Lema: Yeah. This [00:07:00] is really exciting. So, last time we spoke to you, the energy score audits, Super, super new. Are you picking up some speed with some of those or is it still kind of considered new?

Scott Moore: It, it's still considered new and most of the interest right now has just been in Ashland. And these are people that are involved with the Electrify Ashland Group. And so they, they are trying to show people what the advantages are to going through, put down on your carbon footprint, right. And, and, mm-hmm. Your use of fossil fuels. So that's mostly where that's been right now. And they reached out to me well about six weeks ago now, and they wanna partner with me. Oh, yay. Yeah. And so I've done a little bit of work with them right now. It is spotty because like I said, e everything is still in the infancy stages.

[00:08:00] But I have been working with one of the gentlemen out there who is involved with the Residential Energy Solutions and he was actually the, the front man for the Electrify Ashland and he's very knowledgeable in what he does and I've learned quite a bit from him already. But so now I'm working towards considering getting the blower door test equipment to add on to this cuz I will need that further on down the road.

What Electrify Ashland wants to do with me is they want to have someone that can come in and actually do the the audit, the Home Energy score slash audit that qualifies for the rebate or the the tax incentive. And what that, what it equates to right now is you get $150 credit back off of my fee. [00:09:00] So they want somebody to come in, be able to do that. Recommend the upgrades, and provide oversight for the upgrades and the contractors and whatnot.

Alice Lema: Wow, that is so exciting. So for anyone who is listening that maybe this Home Energy Score audit is new information, can, can you just take a quick second and talk about what that actually is?

Scott Moore: Well so the, the mechanics of the the Home Energy score we take, it's a really a simple equation to a very complex calculation and consideration, or, I, I shouldn't say we there. The Department of Energy's calculator takes in the consideration the type of HVAC equipment you have water heater, electrical [00:10:00] service the type of roof you have, insulation, windows, that kind of thing. They plug all the information into their calculator and they average out what your home energy use should be by comparison to a similar home in your jurisdiction.

So it's got your same power company or same gas company, that kinda thing. It has a lot to do with the size of the house. The actual volume of the house, your ceiling, heights, all that the position of your house as far as, you know, north, east, Southwest, what, whatever it's doing. All these things are put together. And then we, we come up with a real simple to understand evaluation.

Alice Lema: And then that's a, a printed report or, or online?

Scott Moore: Yeah. It's a, it is a five page report and and it, it's un it is easy to understand. It's, but I, I [00:11:00] always have people calling me and asking me questions about, well, you know, what about this, what about that? And I have to remind people that the, the the equation doesn't take into account for resident's behavior. Okay. And so,

Alice Lema: Oh, okay. That was politely done.

Scott Moore: You know, you might be somebody living in a 1500 square foot house but you're a single guy and you take all your showers at the gym and, you know, you don't leave your cell phone charger plugged in all day and all that kind of thing. So, you know, those things affect your, your score. But it's a pretty close to pretty close average on what your consumption is. And I had one fellow call me and ask me that same question. And when I told him, well, the, the energy score does not take into consideration a hot tub or you know, detached shop or anything like that. It's just, [00:12:00] just for the footprint of the house. Okay? And when he heard that from me, he said, well, yeah, that, that pretty much makes up the difference in what they say my average is and what it actually is. So it, it, it, it is a pretty close evaluation.

Alice Lema: Wow. That is so interesting. We're talking to Scott Moore, stock Moore Construction. He's one of, I think, the only energy home energy score auditors, inspectors here in southern Oregon. Is that right?

Scott Moore: That's correct.

Alice Lema: And the home energy score audit inspection is kind of not only new to our area, but it's mandatory up in Portland, isn't it?

Scott Moore: Yes, it is. And this is a, this is something that Electrify Ashland is pushing for as well. This, you know,

Alice Lema: To make it mandatory. In Ashland? Okay. So for the folks that are worried about it can in just the few minutes we have left, can you speak to the benefit of this kind of overall and, and why people [00:13:00] might wanna do it, whether it's mandatory or not?

Scott Moore: Well there's there's a couple of different ways to look at it. If if you own the home and are trying to upgrade and get incentives, this is the first step that you need to do to get the Home Energy score. And, and like I said, I have, I have I'm adding other services to make it even more bang for the buck. Let's put it that way. Okay? If you are seller and you want to prove that you have an energy efficient home, there's no better way to do it than have a, a document from the Department of Energy spelling out just exactly.

Alice Lema: Boy, that's a good point.

Scott Moore: Yeah. And then on the other side, on the buyer's side, it gives you a roadmap to see what you can do to upgrade the value of your home [00:14:00] without raising your taxes on the home. Okay. So you, you buy a house and it needs X, Y, Z to have it updated. You make those updates, you get tax incentives on it. You add value to your home without changing your tax base right off the bat.

Alice Lema: Oh, that's interesting.

Scott Moore: Yeah. So that's another way to look at it.

Alice Lema: That's a very good reason actually.

Scott Moore: It is a good reason. There's there, you know, there there's a lot of things that can be beneficial, but you have to be creative with to understand what the whole scope of it is. And then also there's one more aspect of it as well. If you have rentals and you wanna upgrade and get the most bang for your buck, You need the energy score to tell you what is needed and what kind of rebates you can get.

Alice Lema: Wow. Well, and you know, a lot of tenants pay their own electric and gas bill. So at [00:15:00] some point I'm wondering if tenants might be more attractive to a home that can provide this energy score. Wow.

Scott Moore: I, I, I, there's, there's too many different variables to recite for sure. But I know that one, one that sticks in my head the most is for a rental, if you upgrade to a ductless mini split type system that's $600 credit, just to put that in your rental.

Alice Lema: Wow. Hold that thought. Scott Moore Construction. He is inspector extraordinaire. We're talking about home energy score audit inspections. Right now we're gonna take a quick break from, get a word from our sponsors, then we're gonna be back talking to Scott Moore about construction, about his whole house inspections. He gave me a tidbit before we went on that he has got some VA compliance information coming up, so don't touch that dial. We'll be right back with Scott Moore.

Well, hey, Southern Oregon. Welcome back to the Real Estate Show. I'm Alice [00:16:00] Lema. I'm a broker here in beautiful Southern Oregon with John L Scott Real Estate, and we're speaking with Scott Moore of Scott Moore Construction today. And I call him the inspector extraordinaire just because he has so many layers of inspection that he can offer. And right before the break, we were talking about his home energy score. Inspections, which are voluntary right now, but as you were mentioning, Scott, they can be very, very helpful not only to the homeowner, but in case of a, a tenant situation.

Scott Moore: Yep, absolutely. Yes. It, it, it can be very helpful in the scope of and tenant concerns for energy expenditures and whatnot.

Alice Lema: And then right before we had to take our break, you were just about to talk about some kind of credit for changing to a mini split. And a lot of people don't know what that is.

Scott Moore: Okay, well, the [00:17:00] mini split is the ductless heat pumps and it's the particular unit can be used and, and adapted to a ducted system. So and I I, one of the homes that I looked at that was one of the upgrades they did. It was a split level home, and they got rid of the, the old heat pump and air handler. They installed a different air handler and put a mini split to provide the, the hot and cold to the ducted system. And then they had a separate mini split that was non inducted, that, that handled the lower space of the home, the, the lower level of the home.

Alice Lema: Oh, that's interesting. So they had both.

Scott Moore: Yeah. And so that particular type of unit, even though it's hooked up to a ducted system still gives you a very high energy savings.

Alice Lema:

And it does it adequately cool.

Scott Moore: And Oh, absolutely. [00:18:00] Yeah. Absolutely.

Alice Lema: So you're not giving up anything on comfort?

Scott Moore: No. You're not. You're not. But it, you know, the, the most people that are concerned about this are concerned about the, you know, of course their carbon footprint how much fossil fuel is being used. And then there's the other side of it to where there can be advantages as far as tax credits and, and these kind of things.

Alice Lema: Yeah, that's really, and those tax credits are coming from the state of Oregon or the feds.

Scott Moore: They're coming. It's coming from the feds. And interesting thing about that is I believe I've been told that this next coming year. Okay these these incentives are mostly coming handed down through the inflation Reduction Act, which we all know is basically just energy. And a lot of these incentives are gonna be direct cash incentives [00:19:00] in the, in the following year. And what that means is that say you buy an HVAC system, And you, you buy a nice system and there's gonna be a $2,500 credit.

Let's say that what that means is that that $2,500 gets paid directly to the HVAC company and then that reduces your price, your actual out of pocket. And so electric vehicles, all that, they're gonna have that type of credit.

So are they gonna give a credit to have the electric vehicle plug in in your house?

Alice Lema: Is that what you mean?

Scott Moore: Yeah. So there's upgrades for that as well.

Alice Lema: Wow. That's very cool. Well, there's kind of a lot in that then that that can add up to some pretty big money.

Scott Moore: Yeah, there's big money in it and I only know just a few little things about it. Mm-hmm. I'm sure. I mean, there's layer upon layer on this thing, so.

Alice Lema: Yeah. Well, it's a fascinating topic and looking forward to hearing, you know, as the months [00:20:00] and quarters go by how that's picking up speed in, in southern Oregon for the home energy score evaluation. That's very, very cool. Let's talk a little bit about your construction business. We're speaking with Scott Moore, Scott Moore Construction, and you did have, last time we were talking to you, you did have some construction projects going in as well.

Scott Moore: I've still got a remodel going on in Jacksonville. And that it's moving along kind of slow because permit issues and whatnot have and also subcontractor issues have slowed things down in a lot of spots. So are we still having a little bit of a labor challenge? Yeah, I would say so. I, there's only been a couple of the subcontractors that we've been using that are, you know, I consider acceptable. Then there's guys that just they're not, [00:21:00] you know, good enough. Yeah. So you know, a lot of, lot of that has been issues and then permit issues they seem to The city of Jacksonville seems to like to move to goal posts on a daily basis.

Alice Lema: So so does that mean that you get surprised by some of the city situation?

Scott Moore: Yeah. So for instance when I started this project, I called the city, you, I wanted to make sure that everything was in order and what we were doing because the homeowner was trying to act as a general contractor here.

And so I wanted to make sure that all our bases are covered because I'm the guy with the license and the insurance and I wanna make sure things are right. And so they told us we needed no permits for what we were doing. And we were changing out the windows. And I said, okay, we need a permit for that.

We got the window permit and then it turns out that We needed a siding permit [00:22:00] to replace the siding that got taken off to reframe the windows for the new windows.

Alice Lema: And I've never heard of that.

Scott Moore: Yeah. And so that turned into a nearly two month ordeal to get because it had to go to the board and then it had to be voted on. And a lot of red tape involved.

Alice Lema: For a siding permit. So is that something new?

Scott Moore: I, I, you know, I haven't done any, I've never done a remodel in Jacksonville. I've only done new construction there, so and I don't know when this came into play, but they want everything to look as it was. Okay. They don't want to change you the feel for the city. They want it to look the same when you put it back to together.

Alice Lema: That is very Jacksonville for sure.

Scott Moore: Yeah. Yeah. And even though that there's these are, this is three houses that are put together and there's different siding components on each part of the house.

Alice Lema: Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So did they want you to have it uniform then? I mean, did they play that card? [00:23:00]

Scott Moore: No, they didn't do that. They just want each area that's been opened up to be put back the same way as it was. So, I mean, same type of siding.

Alice Lema: Yeah, but what if the homeowner wanted something different, which a lot of times they do.

Scott Moore: Yeah. That would be something that has to be voted on.

Alice Lema: Wow. A vote.

Scott Moore: Yeah. And so that in that involves your neighbors and everybody, you know.

Alice Lema: Oh my gosh. Oh, those poor people.

Scott Moore: Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, we finally got the permit for that just this last week.

Alice Lema: Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's surprising the delays in construction right now. I talked to a lot of builders and remodelers, and we just heard a story recently of somebody who couldn't do their four house subdivision, which is small as far as subdivisions go, but they, they wanted to do four houses and they needed from the power company a transponder, [00:24:00] which is the little silver cylinder thing on the pole, and they were back ordered four to six months.

Yeah. So anybody who's thinking about doing construction, you can't possibly know everything like the thing with the siding. So always add time and money to your, to your schedule and your budget, right, Scott?

Scott Moore: Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. So, and we the owner wants me to create an ADU an additional dwelling unit in the back out of the garage structure back there. And I told him, I said, you know, this time you gotta get your engineering in, in order and get your plans drawn up and let's get it done right. Or else it's, you know, it's never gonna happen. And so doing that now too, but that's gonna take several months to get the Okay on that.

Alice Lema: Well but that's a great idea. Are they gonna rent it out or use it for their family?

Scott Moore: This is short-term [00:25:00] rental.

Alice Lema: Oh, okay. Okay. Well that's very interesting. And, and just anybody who's listening short-term rentals are allowed in Jacksonville, but there's a special, there's a special zone. Just like in Ashland, you can only legally have those short term rentals like Airbnb and V R B O in Jacksonville and Ashland on certain streets. And they check, they pay somebody to check online. So, well, that's interesting. So you might be done with that construction project in Jacksonville in another couple of months, do you think? Well, not the ADU, not the cottage conversion.

It could be. I mean, it's just it just depends on what goes on now.

Scott Moore: I mean, I've got the inside of the house ready to go for drywall. Right now it's, you know, getting the drywall crew over there and getting that done. And everything afterwards.

Alice Lema: So how's the supply chain? Is that getting any better?

Scott Moore: I haven't had any problems on my [00:26:00] end. As far as the stuff that I'm hands-on with, I haven't had any problems at all. I mean, people were saying that, oh, you better get your windows ordered cuz they're months out. It was not, that's not the case. So we, we had windows in six weeks.

Alice Lema: Oh, that's good news.

Scott Moore: That that's the same kind of that's how far out they were when I was still building full-time.

Alice Lema: Okay. Okay. Okay, well that's normal. And how about permits in Jacksonville? About how long could people expect for those?

Scott Moore: Boy, the, the, the permit part is that takes a lot of time. As far as the remodel goes, like I just said, you know, if, if you don't know exactly where the goal goalposts are that day . You're not gonna be able to cover all your bases. And it's, it's not like anybody offers any information. You gotta ask questions.

Alice Lema: And you gotta ask the right question. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that's hard, that's hard to do. Especially when they're changing things. Yeah. So we only have a [00:27:00] couple minutes left. We're talking to Scott Moore, Scott Moore Construction. We fondly call him the inspector extraordinaire cuz he has so many aspects of his inspection business and a amazing construction background. Let's talk just briefly about the whole house inspection process. How's that going right now?

Scott Moore: You know, that's still like with pretty much the rest of the market is hit and miss. You know, it is certainly not like it was even last year at this time. Yeah. Yeah. I'm you know, I might be getting 15, 18 inspections in a month where I'd normally be doing 30, 35. Yeah. So, yeah.

Alice Lema: Well, that's like half, yeah. Yep. Well, and that's, if you look at the market numbers, we're down in some, in some neighborhoods, 26 to 40% in the number of property sold. So that's, that sounds about right. But when you do purchase a house, it's good to have it inspected for sure.

Scott Moore: Absolutely. Yeah. [00:28:00] Absolutely. And I, you know, I, I have I still have new realtors calling me all the time and Wanting me to do stuff for 'em. And and I, you know, of course I follow through with that. And I'm, I'm getting I've had actually two new realtors just came up here from California and that have called me and they had been out of the game for a while and they just got their license and, and are, and are moving forward now, and they're asking me why people don't do pre-listing inspections.

Alice Lema: Right, right. I am like one of the only people that thinks that's a good idea and, you know, yay for them.

Scott Moore: Yeah, we talk about that and you know, you know, they asked me, do you think there's an an advantage.

Alice Lema: Oh my god, yes. And you know, I'm sorry to cut you off, Scott Moore. We gotta take a quick break. Don't touch that, dial we'll be right back.

Welcome back to the Real Estate Show, folks. I'm Alice Lema. I am your host of the show, and we are talking to our extraordinary [00:29:00] inspector Scott Moore. Scott Moore Construction. He offers home energy score inspections as well as whole house inspections, does construction on the side, was a builder for a time, just a wealth of information. And you mentioned that you were gonna be doing something with the Veterans Association. What's all that about?

Scott Moore: Yeah, that was pretty interesting. And, and Alice, you know me on, on a personal level that I do whatever I can for different veterans associations and I'm not a veteran, but my, I have several family members that are.

Alice Lema: Oh, you are a veteran's family. I do remember your veterans family.

Scott Moore: And also my wife is a vet, so yeah. But I was contacted from with, from the VA through my national listing with Internache and they offered for me to [00:30:00] come on as a compliance inspector. And what that is it's it's something new in the VA system as well. And what we will do is do compliance inspections on special adaptive housing improvements, or it could be a whole house. It could be just a ramp, it could be a bathroom remodel, kitchen remodel. That for, for these guys are the, the hard cases. The guys that have lost limbs, the guys that are dying from Agent Orange, that kind of thing.

And what the compliance inspector does is make sure that everything is to VA standards. Everything is up to what the VA specs are, that the vet is getting exactly what they're supposed to get. If there's any kind of changes going on, I, we have to verify that there's gonna be change orders and the change orders are sufficient. If there is money left over from their grant, [00:31:00] how that money can be spent and, you know, make recommendations on where that money can be spent. And so I get a chance to to go out and help vets.

Alice Lema: So that sounds like inspection on construction changes. Is that right?

Scott Moore: Basically. So that's what they're saying special effects. Yeah. Yeah. And so you know, I had to take a test and do schooling and all this other stuff, but so yeah, I'm pretty much good to go on that at this point. And it was really from what I've been able to see way out of the norm as far as efficiency goes in relationship to the VA.

When I told him that I was interested in doing this, it was just bang, bang, bang, everything got done within just a couple weeks.

Alice Lema: Really? That is unusual for the government.

Scott Moore: Yep. And the phone numbers that they sent me and the extensions, I dial directly. I have somebody picks up the phone.

Alice Lema: [00:32:00] Wow. Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing. Yeah. That is amazing. So the veteran who has the need for what they call adaptive housing, that's where the, the physical house is changed. Counters lowered, what, what other kind of changes would they make?

Scott Moore: Well, the simple stuff would be a ramp. A ramp. You know, handicap ramp and you know, that generally includes nine times out of 10, making some door changes and that kind of thing.

Alice Lema: Making doorways wider, you mean?

Scott Moore: Yeah. And or it could go all the way to building a new home.

Alice Lema: Oh, wow.

Scott Moore: So anywhere in between there. Yeah. And so what my, my part of the deal would be anywhere from three to five inspections for one project. And I, I set up I send up a report and verification of change orders, like I [00:33:00] just mentioned, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's a pretty wide spectrum.

Alice Lema: That's very interesting. How common are those? Shower, we used to call 'em rollin showers. Mm-hmm. Where there's no, there's no lip or step.

Scott Moore: Yeah. So if it's gonna be a bathroom upgrade or something like that, then that's gonna be generally part of it. And they're for wheelchair people, people, they're, you know, they're very common. And just in the education that I've got from getting this appointment there's different types of shower roll-in showers for so if say a vet is wheelchair ridden from MS, they're in a different type of wheelchair, and

Alice Lema: I did not know that.

Scott Moore: So, I mean, if, if they're bedridden. With MS their wheelchair is more of a, you know like a lounge recliner. So [00:34:00] has to be a lot bigger. It does. Yeah. So, yeah than a, than a regular wheelchair, quite a bit bigger. Yeah. So I mean, that's something that you wouldn't even think about unless you,

Alice Lema: So does it project forward more or is it wider?

Scott Moore: More like laying back. From foot to head there longer.

Alice Lema: Wow, that's so interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea there were different kind of wheelchairs, but it makes sense.

Scott Moore: Yeah. Well, I, I knew a, a fellow who had MS and he did, his wheelchair was noticeably different, but I never thought about it. And yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Alice Lema: Well, construction is so interesting. It can be made to accommodate all kinds of things, and it's exciting that you have that VA compliance inspection certificate now. It doesn't sound like we have very many people down here doing that.

Scott Moore: I'm the only one in Oregon right now. This, this is in Oregon. Really. So my, my, my area [00:35:00] is Jackson, Josephine, Douglass and Klamath Counties.

Alice Lema: Wow. Wow. So is that ordered through a veterans loan or the VA specifically?

Scott Moore: So I was well it's all part of the VA, but it's I was contacted from the actual loan center out of Denver. But yeah, it's all part of the VA.

Alice Lema: So what that sounds like is when a veteran is buying a home or refinancing a home, they can do a rehabilitation, a renovation involved in that to accommodate their physical needs.

Scott Moore: Yeah. So they have to apply for the grant money first. And I, I think that, that those grants can be even used towards VA housing, like rental type stuff.

Alice Lema: Really? Oh, that's super interesting. Because, you know, there's, there's very few rentals that have [00:36:00] any kind of accommodation whatsoever. Like almost, almost none. It's very hard to come by. And not just for veterans, just for people who are elderly or, yeah. Need a, need a little wider door.

So I did wanna ask a, a drain question cause I'm fascinated by construction and when you're doing the the flat shower in mainstream, they call 'em the infinity, but they're really the, the rollin shower basically idea. How do you do a drain in that?

Scott Moore: Well, there's still a pitch to it. There's still a pitch in the shower pan.

Alice Lema: Oh, okay. So it's not completely flat.

Scott Moore: Yeah, it's not completely flat. Yeah. You still have to have a little bit of a pitch to it. It's not very much. It's subtle, but it's there.

Alice Lema: Okay. Yeah. Well, Scott, we could talk to you forever. We're running out of time. How about you give the folks your phone number and email?

Scott Moore: Okay. Well, it's Scott B. Moore Construction, and my phone number's (541) [00:37:00] 621-1793. My email address is Scott B. Moore construction gmail.com, and my website is rogue valley home inspections.com.

Alice Lema: Amazing. Thank you again for being on the show. We love your updates. You really are the inspector extraordinaire. This will be repeated tomorrow at 6:00 PM Have a beautiful Southern Oregon weekend.

Bye now.